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Session 9 - Public Access Computing
5:35 PM EDT 9/5/08
Who are the customers using the computers in your library? What impact does providing free public access computers have on your community? What services could your library provide using your public access computers?
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
7:13 PM EDT 9/5/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
We have a core majority of computer users (about 20 kids) ages 9-14. Next is a smaller group (about 8 adults) of ages 22 - 45. I don't get any computer users over 50 years, and have had about 2 college age. The greatest impact is that the computers draw in the kids. It is wonderful to have computers to draw them in as Alta Vista has no other place for the children to go. I figure, if we have something to draw the children into the library, I can get them to check out a book. However, I'm beginning to wonder if the older adults look at the library as a place for the young to "hang out" (is that an 80s term or what?). Of the 8 adults about half are board members and spouses. I often wonder what is going on with this library? I'd like to start a class for the older members of our community. I've been asked by a few of our elderly patrons. I could provide a very introductory class on computer basics, MicroSoft Word and Excel. I guess I really don't know what computer services to provide to our library users and to our community. I have not explored many different avenues myself. I don't know how to blog or even the difference between a blog, forum, or social group online. Looks like I could use a little help here.  I do enjoy online classes, but don't know what is available to the public. I'm open to ideas!
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
7:13 PM EDT 9/7/08
as a reply to Maria Popken.
Second post to see if all is working well --- Hang in there Maria - we'll discuss the various blogs, etc. later in class. Maria Popken: We have a core majority of computer users (about 20 kids) ages 9-14. Next is a smaller group (about 8 adults) of ages 22 - 45. I don't get any computer users over 50 years, and have had about 2 college age. The greatest impact is that the computers draw in the kids. It is wonderful to have computers to draw them in as Alta Vista has no other place for the children to go. I figure, if we have something to draw the children into the library, I can get them to check out a book. However, I'm beginning to wonder if the older adults look at the library as a place for the young to "hang out" (is that an 80s term or what?). Of the 8 adults about half are board members and spouses. I often wonder what is going on with this library? I'd like to start a class for the older members of our community. I've been asked by a few of our elderly patrons. I could provide a very introductory class on computer basics, MicroSoft Word and Excel. I guess I really don't know what computer services to provide to our library users and to our community. I have not explored many different avenues myself. I don't know how to blog or even the difference between a blog, forum, or social group online. Looks like I could use a little help here.  I do enjoy online classes, but don't know what is available to the public. I'm open to ideas!
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
7:14 PM EDT 9/7/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
There are many different customers that come into use our public computers. We have about 255 computer users per week as well as 50 more wireless users. Most of these users are over the age of 18 or adult patrons. Providing this to our community is a great service as we are a lower income area that has just started to get in-home high speed internet, so the library is still a place to go to get high speed internet. Also, we are a relative rural community where although there is high-speed internet now available to citizens within city limits, many patrons outside of the city limits only have the option of dial-up internet, making it very hard to use today's advanced web plug ins and web content (as well as meeting the need it now mentality). There are many things that we can do to provide more services to our customers, we already offer computer classes and other technology classes, but we could and should work harder on providing information on job hunting, e-government and staff training to assist themselves and our patrons-also working with the local/state organizations that meet these needs, such as Iowa Workforce Development.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
9:03 PM EDT 9/7/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Our Library is in a small community. Our elementary school has closed also this year. This is hard on a small community. I thought maybe this year I would see more kids checking out books for their required reading in school. I have all ages using the computers. We have two lap tops and an older computer for the patrons to use. I have a deaf lady that is learning to use the computer. Needless to say I'm going to a sign language class on Friday. Hope this helps both of us!!! The patrons that come in to use the computers do not have one at home. They would be without access to friends and family in many states. We have the high speed that enables patrons with their own laptops to come in and have access to the high speed because they do not have it at home. In our area they are just getting the lines put in the ground to access us in the country to high speed. The younger children learn a lot because they can be on it everyday I am open. Repetition helps them. These kids would be out getting into trouble in the street. I would rather they were in the Library than running around town. I think the Library needs to offer more classes on the computer. I need to learn more to provide them with more knowledge.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
12:10 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
The largest group using the library computers in our library is the 9-18 yr old age group. This group basically uses the computers for social reasons--e-mail, IM, facebook, etc. We do have a few 19-40 somethings that use the Internet occasionally for research and some are taking online classes and do not have home access. Most older adults that come in and want to look something up on the Internet, want you to do it for them and are not too interested in trying it themselves. We see a few more older computer users in the summertime when out of town vistors might stop in to check e-mail or do family research while on vacation. I have always wanted to do more to encourage older patrons to use our Internet. I think many of them have little computer knowledge and have no idea what they could use the computer for. I would love to have classes for those who would like to learn some basic computer and Internet skills.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
2:11 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
We have mainly preteens and teens coming in to use our computers. We do have a few adults who come and do research and check e-mail. Providing free public access computers has a big impact on our commumity. The kids have a place to go and hang out and hopefully check out a few books too. Services I would like to provide are teaching teaching a basic computers skills class and maybe having game tournaments.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
2:18 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Carolyn Hartmann.
I can relate to your answer. This year is our first year with our school closed also. So I think the library is more important to our town than ever. This is the only place that Chelsea kids can hang out together, besides on the bus to and from school. A lot of my patrons also do not have internet at home.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
2:29 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
My computer uses range from elementary school kids to senior citizens, but the most common ages are 19-25 and 40-50. Some have no clue what they're doing and others use so much technospeak I can't figure out what it is they're on about. With my computers in the sorry state they're in (I'm getting new laptops instead of desktops if it kills me) it's really hard to provide the simplest of services with any regularity, but I hope to be able to provide tutorials and basic internet skills training in the future. The computers serve a very important function here, because Lehigh is one of those towns that considers technology replacement in the home to be low priority, so I'm here when their printer breaks or their laptop cable frays or their modem dies. I'm also here to provide internet access to those who need it or want to play games and their home computer is homework only. As for other services, I'd love to be able to provide the ability to sign up for on line classes through some of the local universities, get access to craft sites for my quilters and knitters, I have a million ideas, a five dollar budget, and about enough time left in my day to do all this or make a sandwich and take a nap.  But I always try to know exactly what I want, just in case someone who can make it all happen for free should come walking in unexpectedly.  I see a lot of potential in this area and can't wait to make it all happen.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
2:35 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to dianna dunning.
Oooh-game tournaments! I wouldn't have thought of that in a million years!  Thanks for the idea, because I think that would get some pretty serious attention around here. I have some truly addicted gamers floating around...this could be fun... Heck, I could even get some of my older patrons who are card players to have a go at internet hearts!
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
3:39 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
During the school year, computer use is probably split pretty evenly between adults (30-45) and 5th-8th graders. However, during the summer, use by kids goes up because the computers are available to them more hours. I'm not sure what impact these computers have on my community. Based on what they seem to be used for, I would say we have more people transacting business on-line and doing schoolwork on a computer. In the last nine months, we've begun offering a lot more services through the computers, last December we automated and patrons can access the library catalog and their account from any computer. We also offer downloadable audiobooks through our website and have just begun offering computer classes. I would like for us to be able to offer more help to computer users in the library. The main roadblock to this is the widely varying degree of computer knowledge of library staff. Right now, the biggest service I would like to offer is to increase the awareness of all of our computer users about the potential dangers lurking on-line.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
3:56 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
The range of our computer users is pretty much the pre-teen to the teenagers. We just recently got our computers from the Gates Foundation and now have five very new computers and I think as word spreads that we now have five for the public to use our usage should pick up before this we only had three and two of them were pretty old and ran wery slow. I think the impact is relatively minimal as I think most people in our community have their own at home or the elderly just don't have one in their homes, but there is where I would like to step in and show them what they can do and what other things they can access from the computers and let them know it is not just for the younger generation.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
4:06 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Our largest group of users is the tweens and teens, mostly for playing games. They also spend a fair amount of time instant messaging and just looking for things on the internet. Lately, we've been getting more people, young adults and up, using the internet for school and job related activities. There's not a lot for kids to do here in our little town, so the internet brings them into the library during the summer and as a kind of meeting place after school many times. I'd like to be able to target this age group, but am not real sure yet what services we could provide, although people often have problems accessing their college information. Maybe this would be something to look into.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
4:08 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
leldred Springville We have many and varied customers, the after school crowd comes to mind first off, adults are coming in more and community college students taking quizs on line, we have several seniors just getting their feet wet on the computer. We are a popular place in our community, word has gotten out that we have 9 internet computers. We have the added service of printing with ease from the computer and are considering basic classes to help patrons navigate.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
4:11 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Cathy Humpal.
leldred We are surprised at one time the largest group was our teen and tweens but our adults are catching up fast. I wonder is a lot of them are giving up their computers at home to save money.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
4:22 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Carolyn Hartmann.
Carolyn I have to agree with you on many of your statements. We to have kids that meet me at the door when I open and some spend the whole time I'm open on the computer but like you said I would rather have them in the library then running around on the streets, and maybe they will find a book that would peek their interest. I feel I need to also be able to offer some computer classes for the patrons who don't feel they know anything about the computer.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
4:24 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Melanie Murray.
Gee, do we work at the same library? Two weeks ago I had a lady come in with her wireless laptop when she couldn't receive a signal at home, and after half an hour on the phone with her tec support, discovered she had accidentally turned off the switch that connected her. Saturday I had a frantic college student rush in to download a study guide. His home computer wasn't working, his neighbor's computer couldn't read the information; then the neighbor remembered the library was open. My own kids are up here all the time, simply because we have a computer at home but no internet. I feel like putting a big flashing sign out front advertising all this, because I wonder sometimes if people are aware of what we have. How do you get the word out, and then help people to feel like they are truly welcome to come in and use these things? They always seem so guilty when they thank me (except for my kids!), and I tell them that it's one of our services to the public. Nobody's computer is fool-proof; I'm glad we can help people out when they are desperate.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
5:01 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Session 9 - Web Board Questions 9-8-08 1. Who are the customers using the computers in your library? My customers are all ages, middle, children and young adults. Young adults check their e-mail if their computers at home are down. Others do homework, research, the children mostly play games, or whatever they do. 2. What impact does providing free public access computers have on your community? The impact on our community is good. There are 2 ladies doing homework from classes they are taking. Once in a while a child will try to do homework, because of the questions they ask me. I think I need to buy some disks for people to use. I did buy some that one person wanted, buy they did not work for her. So what kind do I buy or what do I do now? 3. What services could your library provide using your public access computers? I believe we need to add computers to our library as we can afford them. One lady told me she hopes her teen will be able to do her homework on our computers. Classes would be good too, like e-mail or how to find info. on the computer, but I would need to find someone to teach it, I can barely do my own!!
2. The Internet has had a profound impact on the way libraries do business. As the Internet continues to change and grow, as well as our patron's expectations on accessing information, how do you think this will change the way libraries look, feel and operate?
I think we need to embrace this computer growth in the libraries, the young ones are going to need it in their jobs. and I don't think there will be a job that does not use a computer. I would like to see more computers here, as there are many homes that do not have a computer, it is another expense everyone just cannot afford, and perhaps that child has to do homework on a computer.. I have a lot to learn, but I really do not think some of the really older generation is to thrilled to learn it. We will have more computers in our libraries because they are a service we provide, and someone with a technology background will most likely need to be hired and they will need to be paid more, and have benefits added I'm thinking. Erna Lunn Ledyard
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
5:25 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Carolyn Hartmann.
Hi Carolyn Hartmann, I read your message, you were saying that some patrons come in that do not have a computer at home and they can stay in touch with their friends and family. How does that work? Patrons cannot use our e-mail address can they? Or do you set them up with one. Usually the patrons that check their e-mail here do so because their computer is down at home or they are up town and just come in to look it up. I personally do not have a computer at home. We are a small library also. Erna Lunn, Ledyard.
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RE: Session 9 - Public Access Computing
5:40 PM EDT 9/8/08
as a reply to Melanie Murray.
I have been considering gaming tournaments too, but I was thinking of younger people and hadn't thought of adults. I like your idea of getting adults interested in computer with online hearts.
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