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Session 11 - Reference Services
5:31 PM EDT 9/5/08
Describe the process you and your staff follow to answer a reference question. Do you do a “reference interview” with the person? Where do you look first? What is your most common reference question? Has the Internet affected how you provide reference service? Has it affected your reference collection?
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
5:11 PM EDT 9/10/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
leldred Springville We have a very simple process as we do not get a lot of reference questions. Both my director and I wish we would because we both enjoy looking that kind of thing up. We do not do a formal reference interview but in the future we will use the suggestions from the last class. I generally go to the regular encyclopedia, card catalog then the computer. The internet has affected how we provide internet service, for one thing patrons tend to do their own looking then come to us. So far the internet has not affected our reference collection. I guess one of our most asked about subjects are health issues and medical problems.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
7:27 PM EDT 9/10/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Considering our reference collection is close to non existent we generally use the internet as our main reference source. I copied off the list from class that named some good refernce books to have and I plan on adding them to our collection every chance I get. Also we don't really get too many refernce questions that require a "reference interview", so I don't feel like we have a set process that the staff and I use when a question does come up. Our biggest reference questions would be the health and medical questions which we use the medline plus and one other medical site (which I can't think of right now, how good is that?). Even though we would probably tend toward the internet for information I would still like to have a core reference section as a base.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
10:24 PM EDT 9/10/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Well, I am the staff. I didn’t have a process for answering reference questions. I will now. Past practice is sparse, since I am fairly new at this position, but I usually like to ask a few pertinent questions to find out exactly what my patron is asking. Adults’ requests are fairly easy to ferret out. I have more difficulty with the youngsters. I have to ask a lot more questions, because their communication skills are not as well honed. I do have one young man who is delightful to help because he always knows exactly what he is looking for and has all the answers ready!
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
11:05 PM EDT 9/10/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I am the only staff person at our library. I kind of enjoy reference questions, and feel that for the size of our community I get an interesting variety of questions. I do question the patron and get as much information as possible - I have nothing in writing as far as an interview, but try to refine the search. The type of information they are looking for determines the sources I use. When they are asking for local historical information we have a town history book compiled at the time of the town's 100th birthday that has a wealth of information, so I always refer them there first. I had a call from columnist Chuck Offenberger regarding the school's mascot name prior to consolidation and what he needed was in this history book. We get a lot of local history questions, if it can't be found in the book, I have some local people I contact because if it happened here they either know about it or tell me who does. The "blessings" of a small Iowa town. We also have all the weekly newpapers available on microfish back to the early 1900's. I go to the internet for most other ?'s. Our reference collection is rather outdated, latest encyclopedia set is from 2001, and the medical reference and pharmacy books are over 5 yrs old. We do get the Consumer Report Annuals each year and a few other things. The internet has made our library a much better source of information for the patrons, not only more up to date, but there is an endless amount of information on line, if you know how to search for it and the sites to use.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
12:16 AM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Diane Sinclair.
I have more trouble with young people also, right after I started in January a 7th grader came in and needed another source on acid rain for a science fair project. I ordered a book through Intelibrary loan, but it took a week to get it and I felt bad I couldn't get it sooner. I do feel I have more knowledge now that would have helped me to do a better job finding out what exactly she was looking for. (I hope)
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
6:19 AM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
When a person comes in the Library and doesn't seem to know where to go or what they really are looking for, I try to approach them and ask if I can help them find something. If they are looking for a specific subject, I try to get as much infromation from them as to their needs, then I direct them to the non-fiction or reference section. In the non-fiction section, if I do not know the dewy decimal number the item is under, I look it up in the dewy decimal reference book. I show them both the childrens and adult shelves. I find adults sometimes like the simpler information in the children's books and visa versa (students want more information that is in the adult books). The non-fiction section of our library is very well represented. The reference section is poorly lacking, but hope that changes in the future.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
4:33 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I don't get a lot of reference questions, but I guess I never thought about it involving a process or interview. I just help them the way I would help my own kids with a homework question. If i know we have a good reference book that might answer their question, that's where iI'd probably go first. Lots of times, it it's for a school project, I'll pull books, encyclopedias, etc., because they've already found information on the internet. For adults, it really depends on the situation. One common question I am asked is for old pictures of the people and places in our town. Luckily, we have some old pictures that I can pull off the shelves. If it's records they need, I refer them to the coulnty seat. The internet has made it easier to weed our reference section, since so many of those books are out-of-date. I
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
5:40 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I haven't done a reference interview, but I will in the future. I do get a lot of local history questions and have a great selection of books to choose from. I do use the internet as a reference service. With these lean budget times I do reley on the internet and databases more for reference questions.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
6:13 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Describe the process you and your staff follow to answer a reference question. Do you do a “reference interview” with the person? Where do you look first? What is your most common reference question? Has the Internet affected how you provide reference service? Has it affected your reference collection? My "staff" and I,  , ask alot of questions to try and find out exactly what the person is interested in finding. Also offer suggestions to see if we are on track with their thought process etc. Will try to answer the question off the top of my head if possible, or will then usually go to the internet to look up info. Most common reference question(s) have to do with the running, whereabouts, etc. of things in town. We have only purchased one set of reference material since I have been at the library and that was a set of books, one on each of the states, as they are also AR books, and we do not purchase many children's books that are not AR. With the info we got at the last class and our plans of automation, I hope to make reference material more availabe to patrons on line that they can research independently.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
6:19 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Cathy Humpal.
I agree. I seem to get the most reference questions from students or the "mature" populations about town history etc. I also wish I had a good reference for geneology for our town also. The 2 ladies that seemed to be our best resource are no longer able to "remember" as much as they use to, etc. Any ideas on good reference books or sites for geneology that cost little to nothing?
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
7:11 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
The process I follow for a reference question goes somewhat like this, if someone comes into the library and ask me about a certain subject matter i do ask them some questions about what they are looking for, then we proceed to the card catolog if possible or we sometimes just start looking in our little collection of non-fiction and then we might go to the computer. Last year I had some fifth-graders come in they needed to find classification on different non-fiction books so I proceeded to bring out my dewey-decimal book and that helped them with that school assignment. I will now start asking some of the open-ended question that were mentioned in class on Tuesday.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
7:17 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Kim Schwartz.
Kim - Sites I recommend for geneology are: www.rootsweb.com, www.ancestry.com and genealogy.com. The patrons that use these seem to get the information they want. I don't know if there is a charge after you get so far. I know the ones using these in the library don't pay anything.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
8:43 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
We go to the catalog first looking under subject. Usually this give us several suggestion where to look. Sometimes they don't have the correct subject and that can take some time to get the right information. This is where the "reference interview" comes into play. Sometimes we go to the internet to get the right author with the right book. We have not expanded our reference collection, but I do not see us discarding the books. The very next day after class a lady came in lookin for a book on quotes--there it was the very book that was listed we should have in our reference section.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
8:49 PM EDT 9/11/08
as a reply to sharon maaland.
Sharon I also have the most trouble with the teen. Some will hardly talk, only mumble. Mostly they don't want to have to come to the library and do some homework. Boys especially are the hardest. Mostly because they don't like to read. One sent his mother in to find the thinest book she could find for him.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
12:33 PM EDT 9/12/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Our process is very simple - although I believe we ask some of the questions we discussed. I don't believe we really gave it much thought that "we are doing a reference interview!" I try to get people to use the encyclopedia first or I simply go the card catalog and type in the subject or topic. If we do not get any where, I sometimes will try ILL to see if I can find something. Usually, they have already used the Internet and are trying to find their "other sources."
I don't know if I have had one common reference question - they have seemed to vary - the most interesting was helping an Amish farmer look on the Internet where to buy milking goats!
For our collection however, as we start to weed out our reference collection, I can see me using the Internet more for helping with research. We can't afford to buy some of the items needed and how can use justify the purchase when it is available for free on the Internet. I am trying to determine what we need as a respectable reference section without looking pathetic to some of our "older teacher patrons."
An interesting point - I did not realize what online databases we had access to until our Service Area recently held a program on reference services - how to conduct different reference interviews and where to go online for websites as well as how to use EBSCO and FirstSearch. I wish I would have know a lot sooner. Now I feel more comfortable going to the Internet. Before I was "fishing for a bite" now I have a little more confidence.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
12:37 PM EDT 9/12/08
as a reply to dianna dunning.
After reading your reply, I realized that history and genealogy - specifically obits - is our biggest area of questions. We have a very large obit collection in our local/state history room that we have been putting together here for the past four years. It is what used to be in our "reference" room. Well, general reference is a very small part of the room. We have no local history museum or group, so we are the "keepers" of the local history and find this to be a new and exciting reference service.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
3:49 PM EDT 9/12/08
as a reply to sharon maaland.
I miss science fair, because that used to be the time of year that the kids would come and need help. It would be a challenge sometimes, but I always felt like I was really helping. We still have kids that need help with regular school projects, and lately it seems they need sources in addition to the internet. That's when I'm glad we've got a fairly decent reference section.
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
6:10 PM EDT 9/12/08
as a reply to Karen Collins.
Teens and reference questions are always a challenge. nine times out of ten I will work to answer their questions and find books for them only to find them (the books) laying somewhere in the library or in the drop box. They were not very serious about the answer, I hope it isn't because I did not give them the right information! leldred Springville
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RE: Session 11 - Reference Services
11:42 AM EDT 9/13/08
as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I try to ask the patron as many questions as I can so i know where to go for resources. Sometimes the questions come as we get further into the search. I do not have a formal interview but I like the idea and am typing up some questions that I think would be good to ask when they come for help. We do not have encyclopedias in our library anymore. Like most the cost had gotten so high to replace them and the internet is so much faster and easier. We have a good reference section on health books but again with medicine changing each day, the internet can give us the latest info. Most of my questions are on health related items but this summer I got quite a few questions on travel information and looking up places to plan travel. That was fun to help people with that information. There I went right to the internet for the places and travel cost etc.
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