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Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
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Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
5:27 PM EDT 9/5/08
Do you think it is difficult to work with and provide services for young adults? If you think it requires special understanding and skills, how do you think such training should be provided?
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
6:23 PM EDT 9/23/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I don't have any trouble relating to the young people who come in to our library. I really enjoy the few who come in. It helps that I taught at the local school for 33 years. I know less about progamming and what materials I need to have to serve them better. I did get a lot of ideas from today's class. Am waiting for the list of websites to be sent so I can investigate them.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
7:03 PM EDT 9/23/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
Although it has been a few years since I was a teenager myself, I have had 4 teenagers (and still have one). I don't find then difficult to work with and know most of them quite well. I sometimes wish I could do more to interest them in reading and spending a little less time using the computers purely for socializing.
It can never hurt to have more training to help you reach this group and find out what they want from their library. I personally think gaming in the library is a great tool for bringing our teen population in the door, but I don't feel that I have enough knowledge of games and game systems to do a program justice.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
7:27 PM EDT 9/23/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
leldred Springville - This a hard question. I don't think it is difficult if you understand your youth. Each wave of youth is different. I had one group that loved to put on plays, set design, cast the whole thing. My next group a few years later liked the art stuff. They are a fun group to work with if you just relax. I do think it requires skills. The thing I would find most helpful for us librarians who are not up on technology would be some workshops where we actually set up a facebook or my space and get comfortable with it. Maybe help us with the jargin of the youth. I am trying. I want to be there for the kids. Most of these kids I have known since preschool and infant so I have a vested interest in them and want to see them succeed.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
9:19 AM EDT 9/24/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I inherited a teen worker that had been hired by the previous Library Director. I don't know how she had been trained or what she had been told but she wasn't doing what I expected from a Library employee. After training her in things she was expected to know and her understanding what I expected of her, she is an excellant employee. I don't have to tell her more than once how to do something and she gets me out of difficult computer situations. I definintely think there should be a job description and orientation/training for teen workers just like Library Directors and Assistants.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
9:33 AM EDT 9/24/08 as a reply to Joy Metzger.
Joy - I feel the same way, I don't think I know enough about gaming to have it in the Library, but sure would like to be the first one on the block to have it. I think it would bring people in of all ages. We might have to be a little persuasive with the Seniors, but after they got "the hang of it", they would be hooked. I have sent for information for grants for a Wii but have not received anything back.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
1:05 PM EDT 9/24/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I think that it is difficult to provide services to teens because they are easily thrown off by what is mainstream, or not ‘their’ thing. Teens like to be flexible and have their needs met very quickly, which can make it hard to provide them with services. I think that working with teens and understanding them does require a special training or nature, because teen’s can feel ‘burned’ by someone (of the library) very easily and they do take notice of how they are treated compared to others who use the library. Training is something that isn’t easy, however I think many public libraries can look at their local high school libraries and see how they are run and how teens are using them. (If teens are having positive experiences at their high school library). Young staff members can also provide excellent source resources.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
5:45 PM EDT 9/24/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I don't think it is hard to work with young adults. I do think it is difficult to provide services for young adults. As of right now we don't offer any services or special programs for young adults. Just getting them in the door would be the first objective. Keeping them coming in is the second. I think if you just have patience and treat them like any other patron that will help a lot.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
8:26 PM EDT 9/24/08 as a reply to dianna dunning.
You have a good thought there Dianna. Treating them like every other patron is key to having the young adults coming back.
I have a young man who comes in who used to work at the Hampton Library. He has helped me out a couple times with tech problems. When in doubt, ask a kid!
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
3:57 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I don't think it is to difficult to work with young adults although sometimes I would like to know what they are thinking. As for providing services I think that is difficult because of keeping up with the technology that they seem to require and probably know more that we do. In class it was said that librarians are in a transitional stage. We need to keep up with the young people and it requires some special training for that. Times are changing and many older librarians have a hard time changing. I took a class about that we need to get what the kids want to read. I can't remember the name of the class but it mentioned graphic novels just like we talked about in class the other day. We do not have any but I think we need to get some. I have a problem trying to update things like that because of an 87 year old librarian that really tends to control what the kids read. I think some of the training comes from one another. We all seem to be in the same boat. Trying to update and progess our library into the future.
Now, I just hope this takes. Sometimes it will not post for me. And I loose what I wrote. Frustrating
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
4:06 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Diane Sinclair.
I think it is so great that you enjoy the YA that come in and are so willing to learn and try many new ideas as the times are changing.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
7:40 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
In some ways it is hard to work with the teens they have their own ideas and sometimes are not willing to see anyone else. I do get along well with the teens that come into the library most of them are friends of my children. As far as offering a program for them we don't but I sure woulf like to get a program going for teens but they usually are to busy through the school year to add another thing to their plate.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
10:19 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I feel it is more difficult to provide services for young adults. They all are very busy with school activities. When you attend a small school, most of the kids are involved in music, sports, plays and whatever else is going on at the time. There are not enough students in our small school to support these programs unless they participate in several. I have students come in looking for books that they have seen someone at school reading. I always enjoy meeting them and ask them to fill me in on what they are reading and favorite authors, without them it is kind a shot in the dark when it come time to order books. We had three teenagers help with the summer reading program, they are kids that attended SRP when they were younger and now come back to help. I have been thinking and looking at our library trying to come up with a space that would be just for young adults, I don't think my board would be too keen on the idea of changing things around now, since we just moved into our remodeled library this last spring. The board is rather conservative and sometimes I get the feeling they would just as soon not have a space for young people to hang out. This is something that will take some thought in order to approach them about it. I really think the web sites we have been given in class will be a big help in keeping up on what they are reading, something else I'm going to do is read some of the graphic novels and other books they are reading.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
11:31 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Jeanne Tollagson.
Jeanne, you mention the 87-year old librarian that likes to control what kids read... sadly, she'll lose that one because the kids just won't check out what it is she select. Is this elderly librarian still working at the library? emoticon Wow!

Even I hope to retire by then... (I think my mortgage will be paid off when I'm 85) emoticon


Jeanne Tollagson:
I don't think it is to difficult to work with young adults although sometimes I would like to know what they are thinking. As for providing services I think that is difficult because of keeping up with the technology that they seem to require and probably know more that we do. In class it was said that librarians are in a transitional stage. We need to keep up with the young people and it requires some special training for that. Times are changing and many older librarians have a hard time changing. I took a class about that we need to get what the kids want to read. I can't remember the name of the class but it mentioned graphic novels just like we talked about in class the other day. We do not have any but I think we need to get some. I have a problem trying to update things like that because of an 87 year old librarian that really tends to control what the kids read. I think some of the training comes from one another. We all seem to be in the same boat. Trying to update and progess our library into the future.
Now, I just hope this takes. Sometimes it will not post for me. And I loose what I wrote. Frustrating
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
11:33 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Michele Leininger.
I don't thing it is hard to work with them. The main thing we try to do is get the newest books they want to read. We have added some of the new series they asked for and that has brought in new teens to get cards. They have been very polite and couteous most of the time. The high school is 20 miles away so they don't have much time if they are involved with the school ativities. We do ask for suggestions on what they want to read and try to get them as soon as possible.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
11:37 PM EDT 9/25/08 as a reply to Joy Metzger.
Joy
Our library only has 2 patron computers and does not allow games to be played. I asked the board to change the rules but they said no. I am sure games would bring more teens in to the library but no luck right now.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
12:07 PM EDT 9/26/08 as a reply to Karen Collins.
We allow patrons to play games on our computers, but they are not supposed to be in chat rooms. They have found a way around that though, by going into forums (which to me are about the same) and visit with friends.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
12:51 PM EDT 9/26/08 as a reply to Andrew Hoppmann.
I agree it takes a special nature to relate to young adults, with ease. I think with extra effort and the desire to understand them we could do a better job of providing services to young adults. I have not read any of the fantasy series or graphic novels that are popular now, but have been told by teachers that they are good books, so I have put them on my next books to read list.
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
2:55 PM EDT 9/26/08 as a reply to Andrew Hoppmann.
Andrew, I agree with your comment on the high school library experience. We have a real problem at our high school library. I used to sub there and the kids did not feel welcome by the librarian, they were treated as a nuisance. The problem is she is also on the board at our library so I have gotten into many discussions with her. The kids will come down and ask us for books rather than get them there. She has her favoritesand it really shows. I try to greet each kid that comes in like it is a new day, even though we had had issues the day before. I think they just want a chance and I agree, be treated just like everyone else. linda Eldred- Springville
RE: Session 12 - Working with Young Adults
3:27 PM EDT 9/26/08 as a reply to Janet Adix.
Janet, At Springville I tried volunteer orientation so all the teen volunteers would know what was expected of them, but somehow from the time we left the room we were in and they came out to volunteer we had to start all over again. I found out we had to have a mini orientation everytime they came in. It was o.k. but here I thought I was going to get it all done just once.(Silly me)
I have since written a volunteer policy and procedures manual that the board is currently looking at. Linda Eldred Springville
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