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Considering the XP upgrade for your Gates Library Computers?
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Considering the XP upgrade for your Gates Library Computers?
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04
Software upgrades are currently shipping for US Library Program grant recipients that originally received Gates Library Computers running Windows 2000. The presentations available at [url http://www.gatesresources.com/GLC/Upgrade/Upgrade.htm ]www.gatesresources.com/GLC/Upgrade/Upgrade.htm[/url] are provided to help you better understand what these upgrades contain in determining their benefit to your library. Also, be sure to check out the "Software Upgrade Help" resources at [url http://www.pacomputing.org. ]www.pacomputing.org.[/url]
RE: Considering the XP upgrade for your Gates Library Computers?
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
Hey Matt, nice to see you again. Thanks for posting this info - WJ would be a great place for folks to discuss their options as the upgrade packages go out.
RE: RE: XP upgrading Gates Computers and Time Management Software
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
Hello, there!

I'm a former high-tech grrl who's now in library school (and loving it!) I do a lot of computer support for my small local library; we have four Gates computers.

I'm hoping folks will have some feedback and/or suggestions about the following:

We were all set to begin upgrading when we found out yesterday that the current version of SAM (Time Manager) does not appear to be compatible with XP. Another library who did the upgrade and then installed SAM has not been able to get SAM to work correctly and has basically left those five computers unavailable.

Even so, we're not really happy with SAM because of the way it was works (or was installed/configured -- I didn't actually do the installation). SAM doesn't start up until after someone has logged in and doesn't allow a user to logout once the time limit is up. It just allows patrons to use the same login session over and over for the set amount of time.

There are two problems with this: first, patrons only have access to whatever profile is used initially to login; the current policy is for staff to power up each computer and login as "all" -- obviously this means the patrons don't have the choice of using any of the other profiles.

The second problem with this set up is that inappropriate pop-ups/website/etc can be left behind from the previous session, giving the next patron an unwanted surprise.

So, we're very interested to hear how other libraries using the Gates computers have implemented a time/session management solution. I know of one library that just uses sign-on sheets; however, this raises privacy issues (later patrons can see who has used the computer before them).

Looking forward to hearing from all of you!
RE: RE: RE: XP upgrading Gates Computers and Time Management Software
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
We do use sign-in sheets, at this library. We have ten "Public Access" computers, and log in Approx. 1500 to 1600 patrons per month.

In the center of the computer area is my desk where all patrons register to use a computer. Staff signs them in, and we keep their internet card until they are ready to sign out, and then they are signed out by a staff member.

It seems to work well for us.

jc
RE: RE: Time Management Software
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
We also use sign-up sheets for our 8 adult and 2 kids internet stations. Patrons only sign a first name and we toss the sheets daily, so privacy has not been an issue. They seem to be self-regulating: the next person signed up usually lets someone know if they are taking too long!
RE: Considering the XP upgrade for your Gates Library Computers?
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
This question just came into the community inbox. Helen asked us to post it on 'All Aboard' for her.

"Will the children's software that came installed on the Gates NT machines run on new XPs and will we be able to copy that over to them?

Thank you."

Helen Whittaker

Library Manager

Kingsport Public Library
RE: RE: Considering the XP upgrade for your Gates Library Computers?
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
Funny you should mention it...

I have just last week posted instructions at PAComputing.org for upgrading older Windows NT Gates computers to either XP or 2000.

The Tennessee model will support either of these, though it would be best to add another 128MB of RAM for XP.

But even if you are transfering the programs to new computers, you can use the section of the instructions about reinstalling the childrens programs.

So the answer is yes, they mostly will (a few won't). But they don't all install the same way, so check with the instructions.
RE: RE: RE: XP upgrading Gates Computers and Time Management Software
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
In regards to time management, we use PC Cop. Not only on the GATES standalones and GATES lab we own, but also on the public access computers.

I just did our first XP upgraded from the NT platform, and PC Cop made the transition no problem.

Hope that helped.
Terry O.
Glendale Public Library
RE: RE: RE: RE: XP upgrading Gates Computers and Time Management Software
3:01 PM EDT 6/20/04 as a reply to Archived Member.
Hey Terry! Of course that helped! Welcome to WebJunction and the conversations on All Aboard.